. >> john: i'm dieing to talk to you, because there is so much going on with wayne lapierre and the chuck hagel punching bag yesterday. but you published some great pieces about the immigration debate. and you nailed about it what the different factions are, what they are fighting for and why they are doing it? it lays out who is doing what and why. can you expand a bit on that for us. >> sure. and just by way of background, i myself am an immigrant. so it is an issue near and dear to my heart. we're seeing here -- the really big issue is demographics. republicans have no interest in doing anything to help any brown person at all. some quick stats. next presidential election 2016, the non-white share of the vote will be 2% higher than it was last year. so instead of obama winning by a 3.9%, he would have won by 5.3% everything else being equal, just demographic vote. every one -- 100,000 americans die. and they are not going to win a national election unless they can make inroads into the latino vote. so you have basically three groups. i would say people who actually care about immigrati